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Town of Fond du Lac Planning Commission Meeting Date Tuesday, November 19th, 2024
Location Town Hall W5990 Pioneer Road
Time 6:00 PM
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Note Town board members may be in attendance for information-gathering purposes but will not take any action. Interested parties are encouraged to attend. All plan commission decisions are recommendations; the town board makes the final decision based on the recommendation.
Members Jess Allender, Mike Guilfoile, Scott Roltgen, Herb Kedinger, Lisa McArthur Minutes Last updated 11/19/24 1. Call to order and notice of open hearing. 2. Approval of minutes from the previous meeting. Motion by Mike Guilfoile, second by Herb Kedinger, carries 5-0. 3. Discussion on request by David Supple for a blanket SUP for Fred-Land storage units on CTH V. a. Supple special exceptions for storage condos: Planning Commission to review “whether
the
Town
Board
should
issue
a
blanket
special
exception
for
the
Supple
condo
units
to
allow
business
service
and
contractor
facility
uses,
and
if
so,
what
should
the
terms
be?”
i. Message from Attorney: Supple special exceptions for storage condos: Planning
Commission
to
review
“whether
the
Town
Board
should
issue
a
blanket
special
exception
for
the
Supple
condo
units
to
allow
business
service
and
contractor
facility
uses,
and
if
so,
what
should
the
terms
be?”
ii. D. Supple reviews previous discussions. iii. Build to suit. 60’w x 100’l is the latest building that can be put up on the lots, if
they
purchased
two
lots.
Parking
is
also
limited
to
parking
stalls
and
in
the
unit.
Each
lot
is
60’w
120’d.
They
purchase
the
building
and
Supples
still
responsible
for
maintenance.
1. S. Able. Looks nice is well done and doesn’t have complaints. Jess
Allender
agreed.
2. J. Michels (see linked attachment). 3. J. Vogue (sp?) n4994 . A little weary of where it could go. Scott Roltgen
thinks
each
person
should
go
through
the
Planning
Commission
because
it
gives
the
Town
more
control.
Herb
Kedinger
added
the
project
changed
a
lot,
and
S.
Roltgen
echoed
the
change
of
the
project.
4. Conditions? Don’t alter condo docs without letting us know. Limit to 5 5. Jeff Montsma. Special exceptions would still be approved by the town
board,
so
it
is
still
binding.
iv. The Planning Commission recommends the Town Board approve the first seven
condo
special
use
permits
for
business
service
and
contractor
facility
uses,
with
the
following
conditions:
1. business abides by the condo documents, 2. Fred-Land shares information about the sold units with the Board on a
monthly
basis,
3. the site plan remains as presented, 4. parking follows the configuration of the site plan and is hard-surface
only,
5. the condo units not be sublet, 6. the condo documents remain frozen unless reviewed by Planning
Commission,
7. and that he comes back to the Planning Commission after the first seven
units
sell.
Motion by Jess Allender, second by Mike Guilfoile, motion carries (4-1). 4. Discussion on updates to the Farmland Preservation (FP) ordinance and map. a. Updates from CedarCorp: Two updates from Cedar Corp: i. Ordinance text with changes as discussed is attached. Input is requested from the
Town,
as
to
the
section
of
the
ordinance
with
numbered
definitions.
ii. With the proposal of removing the base farm tract language and tracking of
nonfarm
residential
acreage,
the
definitions
in
that
section
would
be
renumbered.
This
will
cause
an
issue
throughout
the
ordinance
where
the
ordinance
refers
to
a
specific
number
in
that
definitions
section.
Some
options
the
Board
may
want
done
for
this
situation:
1. Replace definitions being removed with “Reserved.” and no enumeration
changes
in
definition
section
or
in
ordinance.
2. Renumber definitions. Update ordinance text where references are made
to
the
specific
numbered
definition
to
reference
new
numbers.
3. Remove all numbering from the definitions. Make ordinance text changes
to
reference
general
definitions
section
instead
of
specific
enumerated
terms
within
it.
iii. Approving the changes means we’re in compliance to do the zoning map in the
Spring.
iv. Update on the Farmland Preservation Plan Area map adjustments, potential
County
FPP
amendment:
1. In talking with Terry Dietzel, the County intends on submitting to DATCP
amendments
to
the
Farmland
Preservation
Plan
on
an
as-needed
basis,
but
grouping
them
together
when
possible
at
approx.
6
month
intervals.
The
County
submitted
an
amendment
application
in
September
2024,
so
are
looking
at
spring
2025
as
the
soonest
they
would
like
to
repeat
that
process
with
any
new
updates
that
Towns
bring
to
them.
2. If the Town of Fond du Lac would like to pursue that route of avoiding
rezone
discussions
with
property
owners
by
amending
the
Town’s
FP
plan
map,
the
amendment
could
be
to
include
those
portions
of
sections
35
and
36
that
are
currently
Farmland
Preservation
zoning
district
but
outside
the
Farmland
Preservation
Planned
areas.
This
option
would
avoid
needing
to
rezone
any
of
the
discussed
four
(4)
parcels.
The
Town
can alternatively ask for the amendment to be for as big or small of
acreage
as
they
want,
whether
that’s
a
whole
section
or
just
one
parcel.
3. Next spring would be the anticipated timeline for that County request
going
before
DATCP.
After
the
County
plan
amendment
would
be
recognized
by
the
state,
is
then
the
soonest
the
Town
would
be
able
to
submit
their
ordinance
and
map
for
recertification.
This
is
because
the
County
must
sign
off
that
the
Town’s
proposed
map
and
ordinance
text
are
consistent
with
the
County’s
plan,
and
until
the
amendment
is
recognized,
the
plans
would
not
be
consistent.
v. #1 Jeff Montsma was unable to contact. vi. #2 needs follow up still. vii. #3 is getting back to Patti Supple, but suggests Jeff Montsma try instead. viii. #4 is willing to go to general ag per Herb Kedinger. ix. 121 acres of general ag to farmland preservation; Herb Kedinger to send details. b. The Planning Commission recommends the Town Board approve the revised zoning
ordinance
and
to
follow
Cedar
Corps’
recommendations
for
rezoning
into/out
of
farmland
preservation.
Motion
by
Jess
Allendar,
second
by
Lisa
McArthur,
carries
(5-0).
5. Discussion and recommendations for changes to the General Agriculture (GA) zoning ordinance
to
allow
for
storage
units.
a. Message from Attorney: One thing that we’ll have to decide is the proper way to
administer
these
criteria.
There
are
basically
two
ways
that
we
can
use
them:
i. We can use criteria like these to define the allowable use itself. That is, we can
say
that
you
cannot
even
apply
for
a
special
exception
for
a
storage
unit
in
GA
unless
it
meets
certain
criteria.
To
do
that,
we
can
use
only
objective
check-the-box
type
criteria
since
we
are
just
defining
the
use
itself
rather
than
applying
discretionary
standards.
ii. We can use these criteria as part of the special exception analysis after the
application
is
filed.
This
allows
a
case-by-case
analysis.
But
since
we
cannot
predetermine
special
exception
conditions,
we
would
have
to
re-cast
these
in
neutral
terms
(e.g.,
instead
of
saying
“no
outdoor
storage”
we
would
say
that
we
would
evaluate
“whether
storage
will
be
entirely
indoors”).
iii. And we can also use a combination of these. That is, we can use some of the
criteria
to
define
the
use
itself
and
then
other
criteria
can
be
applied
to
the
special
exception
review.
b. Jess to follow up with Attorney regarding making the ordinance in accordance with
option
two,
and
then
the
Planning
Commision
can
vote
on
it
in
the
next
meeting.
c. Planning Commission recommends replacing Tyler Mengel with John Zorn as alternate
for
Planning
Commission.
6. Future agenda items a. Next meeting date: December 17th at 6 pm i. General Ag storage units 7. Adjournment at 7:20 pm.
Source: Town of Fond du Lac website. First collected Oct 14, 2026.